Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

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  •  27-02-2008, 23:35

    Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    Since moving here from the UK and being used to a 9-5 working day, I cant get my head around the need for a few hours off in the afternoon only to have to work later in the evening!

    What does everyone else think about the concept of a midday break?

  • 29357 in reply to 29351
     28-02-2008, 8:24

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    Personally, I'd rather crack through the day and get it over with so I have my evenings free.  That said a couple of hours to take the jetski's out in the summer is a bonus.  The only problem I have is that everyone I work with is on UK hours and therefore taking a couple of hours off in the afternoon doesn't work for me.  I do find it a little annoying that shops and businesses close at 2 but then in some ways for me it makes sense. 

    If I finish work at six, I can still get other things done that require the shops to be open.  I always wondered in the UK why service businesses never opened late so that people with a job can get things done in the week as opposed to spending leisure time at the weekend or lunch breaks etc.

     


  • 29365 in reply to 29351
     28-02-2008, 14:15

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    Its logical, because its just too hot to work (like in the village I live in) and besides a big lunch is better than a big dinner. Do as the romans do, it does make sense and we (non-spaniards) certainly did not invent the idea for siesta, there must be a good reason for it if a whole bunch is doin it

     
    Why seem people (especially the uk-people) have such a hard time to turn their freakin heads around and acknowledge that they are not in their own country. Take some efford in learning the language and get to know the country you do live in! It gives you advantages

  • 29370 in reply to 29365
     28-02-2008, 15:50

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    I think the Siesta does represent one of the good things about Spain. You don't say what kind of work you do in the village you live. But I guess your not dealing with people on different time zones, which directly affects your business if you are not on hand to deal with people during the Siesta hours. The coast, indeed, Spain is more 'International' that is has been in recent years, so has to switch on to the rest of the world.

    Although, perhaps they just need to switch onto the Spaniards!

  • 29382 in reply to 29370
     28-02-2008, 21:47

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    The heat side of the argument is definitely a good one, it is really too hot to move anywhere fast in the middle of the summer, never mind try to work !.

    I don't know how long the siesta has been around but I assume it was many, many years ago before car travel was so popular (or even invented!). The main problem I notice with the siesta is that it causes 2 extra rush hours every working day, especially on the road between Puerto Banus and San Pedro.

  • 29689 in reply to 29351
     05-03-2008, 14:16

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    Hello  Vick,

    Its  great this  siesta  i  love it, look  at  www.sela-salsa.com y  my name  on  yourmarbella is  salserin.

     

    Take care,

     

    Dan


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  • 29703 in reply to 29689
     05-03-2008, 15:31

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    Origins of the Iberian siesta

     

    The siesta is the traditional daily sleep of the Iberian peninsula and, through Spanish influence, of Latin American countries. Afternoon sleep is also a common habit in the Philippines,China, India, Italy,Greece,Croatia, Malta, the Middle East,and North Africa, In these countries, the heat can be unbearable in the early afternoon, making a midday break in the comfort of one's home ideal. However, in some countries where naps are taken, such as Northern Spain, Southern Argentina, and Chile, the climate is similar to that of Canada and Northern Europe. Besides the climate, in many countries with this habit it is common to have the largest meal of the day in the afternoon, in contrast with other countries where only a lighter lunch is taken.

    The original concept of a siesta was merely that of a midday break. This break was intended to allow people time to be spent with their friends and family.

    Others suggest that the long length of the modern siesta dates back to the Spanish Civil War, when poverty  resulted in many Spaniards working multiple jobs at irregular hours, pushing back meals to later in the afternoon and evening.1 However, this hypothesis sounds unlikely, considering that the siesta tradition is very common in Latin America and other countries with Hispanic influence, much before the Spanish Civil War.

    Although colonized by Portugal, being part of South America, and clearly dominated by equatorial to tropical climate, Brazil stands in glaring cultural contrast in regard to the adoption of an afternoon nap.

     

    Today, the term "siesta" refers to a short nap (15 to 30 minutes) taken after the midday meal. Siestas are traditionally no longer than 30 minutes and are more of a light rest than any kind of serious sleep. Other names for a siesta may include: cat nap, snooze, doze, kip, winks, power nap, or simply, afternoon nap.

    In Argentina, the siesta is supposed to be between 13:00 and 16:00, and in some regions, such as Santiago del Estero, it is called "sacred" because people do not want to be disturbed. Business hours in these regions are usually 8:00 to 12:00 and 16:00 to 20:00. Other business hours (extended) vary between 6:00 to 13:00 and from 15:00 to 21:00, but most either add or shift 30 minutes to the regular 8-12/16-20 times. In bigger cities such as Buenos Aires, and with the time and money it takes to commute, businesses just use 9-to-6 time.

    In Malta, business hours are usually between 9:00 and 12:30 and from 16:00 to 19:00 to enable workmen to return home during the break, have lunch and possibly take a siesta. Due to the shortness of distance between the place of business and their residence, this practice is not uncommon.

    In Iran, business hours are around 6am to midday, then workers relax with long lunches usually eaten outside of the place of employment, then the nap occurs after lunch when workers go home, and return to work around 15:30 to work until around 20:30. It is typical to see during the midday to 14:30 whole business centers including the Tehran Bazaar, and other places of business virtually shut down in the major cities during the siesta.

    Older, pre-teenage children are usually incapable of napping, but acquire the ability to nap as teenagers. Some people sleep the whole time (up to two hours), but most people watch television or take a short 15 to 30 minute nap. In any case, the streets are deserted at the siesta time in siesta-practicing cities. I for one like it, and as holandaluz said above, when in Rome do as the Romans do!!!!!

    Regards

     

  • 34867 in reply to 29703
     06-05-2008, 11:15

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    I do quite understand that 40, 50 or even 30 years ago here in spain people had to had a break at that time because of the hot weather, culture, economy.......many factors!!! La siesta was also respected during the civil war in spain, My grandfather used to tell me about itSmile. And now.... the huge "BUT" .....we are now on 2008, air conditioning???? we´ve got A/C in our cars, , at home, in the office......only builders and a few more have a good excuse cause they do not work from offices, shops...or any indoor business.

    Anyway I always find things to do at that time!

    What do you usually do??

  • 34872 in reply to 34867
     06-05-2008, 12:29

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

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    Its an excuse to skive off in the afternoon.

    Its also extremely inconvenient.

    For example, my wife works in a travel agency in puerto banus, She has to leave at 9am, battle the traffic from marbella to puerto banus to be at work for 10am.  She then works until 2pm, whereby she then has to battle for another hour to get back to marbella. Then she spends an hour or so grabbing a bit to eat only to do the whole thing again.

    This means she does not get home until at least 9pm at night.

    So her work day is more or less 12 hours.

    Its a load of crap in my opinion....."oh its too hot to work".......yeah right, never heard of a fan? ice water?

    I have been living and working in my apartment in Downtown Marbella for the last 10 years and it does not have air-conditioning. I have to rely on a small fan to keep me cool. Yes, it gets hot but I persevere.

    I work 6 out of 7 days from 9am and finish at 10pm , non stop, I have a piece of fruit whilst sitting at my desk in between and only stop to have a slash.

    I just reckon the Spanish are so used to the old siesta thing its an excuse now, oh yeah, let not forget that like everything weird the Spanish do "its a tradition".

    Well, the same way I am told "go back to your own country" whenever I moan about something, I say "If its too hot for you Spanish boys and girls go and move to an country where its cooler, like Sweden or Russia".

    Don't get me started on the hours that banks keep here.



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  • 34900 in reply to 34872
     06-05-2008, 14:16

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    craigedmonds:

    Its an excuse to skive off in the afternoon.

    Its also extremely inconvenient.

    For example, my wife works in a travel agency in puerto banus, She has to leave at 9am, battle the traffic from marbella to puerto banus to be at work for 10am.  She then works until 2pm, whereby she then has to battle for another hour to get back to marbella. Then she spends an hour or so grabbing a bit to eat only to do the whole thing again.

    This means she does not get home until at least 9pm at night.

    So her work day is more or less 12 hours.

    Its a load of crap in my opinion....."oh its too hot to work".......yeah right, never heard of a fan? ice water?

    I have been living and working in my apartment in Downtown Marbella for the last 10 years and it does not have air-conditioning. I have to rely on a small fan to keep me cool. Yes, it gets hot but I persevere.

    I work 6 out of 7 days from 9am and finish at 10pm , non stop, I have a piece of fruit whilst sitting at my desk in between and only stop to have a slash.

    I just reckon the Spanish are so used to the old siesta thing its an excuse now, oh yeah, let not forget that like everything weird the Spanish do "its a tradition".

    Well, the same way I am told "go back to your own country" whenever I moan about something, I say "If its too hot for you Spanish boys and girls go and move to an country where its cooler, like Sweden or Russia".

    Don't get me started on the hours that banks keep here.

     

    So, are you for or against the Siesta? :) 

  • 34926 in reply to 34900
     06-05-2008, 19:05

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    This is Spain

     The Spanish Have Traditions

     
    Siesta is a Tradition

     

    If they want it that way, let them.... Coming in from other countries and fussing about how it is "a load of crap" is a stupid, arrogant way to look at it, grow up and deal with it.


     

  • 34953 in reply to 29351
     06-05-2008, 23:10

    Spanish Siesta - Just great!

    Vicks:

    Since moving here from the UK and being used to a 9-5 working day, I cant get my head around the need for a few hours off in the afternoon only to have to work later in the evening!

    What does everyone else think about the concept of a midday break?

     

    Coming from Switzerland (Geneva) and being here since a couple of weeks, I just love the way the Spaniards break their (work) day into 2 parts.
    Taking a midday break means much to me - I just head out to one of those many Bistro's or restaurants, have a short lunch with a friend in a shadow place or I just relax with a coffee and a magazine. Or I do the shopping in supermarket and have my stuff delivered directly to my home before I am back from work in the evening. ... or what else ...  Yeah I'd go to hairdresser or have my car washed ( only Laserwash :)

    Ending my work later in the evening is fine for me - it's still enough time to meet friends or get stuff done.
    In my hometown  Geneva I'd meet you for dinner at 7-8pm,  here in Marbella it's just fine to join not before 9.30-10pm.

    About traffic jam - I am trying to avoid it whenever I can - who does not? Living in Nueva Andalucia and working at Puerto Banus makes that way easier. I could even head home in less than 10 min, but there is no one waiting for me (beside my cleaning lady) so I won't disturb her.

    Spanish Siesta - a big thumbs UP Stick out tongue

     

     

     


  • 34982 in reply to 34900
     07-05-2008, 12:18

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

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    CristoRey:

     So, are you for or against the Siesta? :)

    I think its wonderful that a country enriches its culture with customs that encompass century old traditions in order to maintain its unique identity amongst the countries of the world.

    As I mentioned in a previous post, whilst convenient for some its highly inconvenient for others and the excuse people give for it, like "its too hot to work", is a poor excuse and is a cop out IMHO. (I mean at the end of the day, who doesn't want to have a couple of hours off in the middle of the day?)

    That excuse may have been the foundation of this tradition but it has no place in this modern hustle bustle world where portable fans can be bought for €5 and there is airconditioning everywhere you look.

    The Spanish siesta is a great marketing tool because whilst my competitors are either having lunch or sitting on the beach napping, I am busy working away taking orders from the frustrated clients of those companies because they cant reach their suppliers.

     So yes, I say keep it but not because of the namby pamby excuse "its too hot to work".

    Big Smile



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  • 34983 in reply to 34926
     07-05-2008, 12:27

    Re: Spanish Siesta - good idea or an inconvenience?

    J1337:

    This is Spain

     The Spanish Have Traditions

     Siesta is a Tradition

     If they want it that way, let them.... Coming in from other countries and fussing about how it is "a load of crap" is a stupid, arrogant way to look at it, grow up and deal with it.

     



    Where have you been?

    Spain is in the EU.

    I can fuss as much as I want. I have a legal right to be here and my opinion counts as much as the next persons.

    I vote here, I pay taxes here, I have property here, I work and have children here so dont see why you think its okay to discriminate against my nationality because I was born in the UK.

    You must be a newbie on this forum and probably any forum for that matter, becasue its not okay to flame other people openly on forums and call them for example, stupid, arrogant and accuse them of being children.

    You should perhaps reserve those kind of insults for your Spanish bank manager like I do.

    If you have nothing better to say apart from the topic in hand, then better that you don't say anything at all.



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  • 34998 in reply to 34953
     07-05-2008, 14:19

    Re: Spanish Siesta - Just great!

    I would say that keep on talking about insults or insulting, spanish, english or where ever people come from is not the root of this forum.

    See? I am on my siesta time now!Big Smile

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